Gagne Named in Mitchell Report

How many different ways can we all say that absolutely nothing will come from this report? When Selig says, "Case by Case", he really means "I will try to forget all about it"...

I don't see this going anywhere.

Yes, I am a Cubs fan. I know that the Brewers have recently signed Gagne to a huge contract, but please, not even for a second, try to get yourself to believe that Gagne wasn't juiced up when he was smashing records. You wrote "The only thing that the report found was that Radomski sent two packages to Gagne, one to his home and one to the Dodgers' facility." What do you believe he was sending him? A dozen roses?
You also wrote that "I still doubt that Gagne was taking steroids during 2002 or 2003 at all. 2003 was, of course, Gagne's Cy Young Award winning season in which he saved 55 games for the Dodgers." Do you really believe that? Honestly? I have been an MLB Blogger for the Cubs since MLB started the blogs. I am a season ticket holder for the Cubs and love them with all my heart. But even I have to admit that many players that I have cheered for were most likely juicers (aka Sosa) Don't let the love you have for your team blind you from the obvious. The second all baseball fans admit that most of their heroes were on something, the quicker we can get to the business of cleaning up the game. Gagne, was a juicer whose body is breaking down. Just ask Texas and the Red Sox how he worked out. Don't think he'll be in 2003 form unless he gets a new supplier.

The thing I don't understand is why reveal these names? I loved it like a tabloid, but we're talking about hear say evidence that wouldn't hold up in court. It's no secret anymore..probably never has been that players were taking stuff, but like Mitchell admitted...the names mentioned are only the tip of the iceberg. On the one hand, it pisses me off because players reputations are screwed now, but then again...that's life and I think the 11th commandment is don't get caught.
As for Gagne, I think the Brewers knew all about this and decided to sign him anyway because they think he can still be effective and I agree with them.

It is interesting that both Bonds and Clemens deny using steroids...They probably deserve a trial or firther investigation considering what's at stake for them....but Nook Logan on steroids? He should of stuck to stealing bases or maybe steroids shot in the legs increases speed. All in all, I hope substances are banned and we return to a time of complete game oitcher work horses. Yes, pitchers were mentioned in the list, but I think the juice helped hitters more.

I feel bad for players like Brian Roberts who once roomed with David Segui who, according to this report, was buying the stuff. Evidentially, Roberts asked a question about the stuff while living with Sequi but now because someone said that someone said, his name appears as a potential violator and that became the evidence that's been published in this report?

I also seen this name on the report. Adam Riggs. Our co-hosts' real name is Adam Rygg. He's no little guy however I doubt these two are one in the same. Because the names are so close, I would not be shocked if the Nation got a few lurkers to come around and ask the BigRygg a few questions about his past LOL...

Was it the movie Cocktail where I heard the quote, "Coglins law, bury the dead, they stink up the joint"?

Steroids are now gone because the people who designed the masking units to cover it up (Victor Conte) have been revealed.

HGH remains until they find a way to detect it. As far as I know, there is no "masking-unit" for HGH because they don't need one until doctor's can detect it in a baseball player's system.

All of what has happened over the last 10 years should not change the opinion of the true baseball fan. I'll never say Barry Bonds wasn't a great hitter, but I will always say that Hank Aaron was the greatest home run hitter of all-time.

With Eric Gagne's name showing up in the Mitchell report, it gives Cub fans something to cry about when the Brewers run away with the NL Central in 2008. Everyone knows the Brewers were the better team in 2007, they just gave away the division. As it turns out, the Cubs landed up losing more games than the Brewers after they got swept in the first round of the playoffs 80-79. :)

I read on another site that 3 Cubs (Kerry Wood, Mark Prior, and Neifi Perez) also purchased from Kurt Radomski. The only reason they do not show up in the Mitchell report is because they paid cash for stuff and Radomski did not claim what he received from them as income.

I don't believe the above but the Mitchell report is filled with a bunch of scenario's just like this one. As a clubhouse secretary, Radomski was also in charge of purchasing exercise equipment for players. How do we know that every one of the checks in the Mitchell report are for Steroids and not for exercise equipment or anything else that he may have purchased on the players' behalf? Where's the proof? The checks themselves? Receipts from FedEx?

Crawley,

I'm basically playing devil's advocate in my article. All I know is that Radomski sent something to Dodger Stadium, addressed to Eric Gagne. That's the only fact supported by the shipping label.

I'm not blinded by the love for my team. Everything adds up to Gagne probably haven taken performance-enhancing drugs. I'm merely saying that, based on the evidence and timelines of the Mitchell Report, Gagne didn't take anything during 2002 or 2003.

And as far as asking Texas how Gagne worked out, I'd say 16 out of 17 saves with an ERA under 2.40 is just fine. Yes, his body probably broke down some from whatever he probably put into it.

But possibilities and probabilities aside, the FACT remains that none of us know for sure.

Big Rygg and Rob......Gagne's numbers in Texas as Big Rygg pointed out were pretty close to lights out. I don't know all the details, but 16 out of 17 save conversions sounds effective. Regarding the legal or illegal side of things, the court system in America always has two sides or at least I think it does from my days watching The People's Courts...and there is always evidence for both sides....a prosecutor and a defense. It seems to me that both sides manipulate certain details to win. So, Mitchell has his evidence and now we can wait to hear the Clemens version and the Bonds version and then let a judge decide...What choice do we have? And the players like Brian Roberts are guilty by association.....a total scam at least to his reputation....
And since all the evidence as Rob pointed out is so questionable, I think the players union would be better off making a statement on behalf of all players and any discipline that comes out of this should be directed at all players....whether they took steroids or not. Isolating a few guilty people seems like a scapegoat so MLB can walk...Make all players responsible and make them do community service related to drugs in sports and let's be done with it. If Cemens and Bonds and anyone else wants to challenge the claim agianst all baseball players, let them do it...They deserrve the right to be representated considering the scapegoating claims being made against probably the best pitcher and best batter of our generation.

Dudes I really agree with Crawly

what number is gagne wearing next yr? brewers site says 38 while espn says 83.

That's got to be a typo on ESPN's part.

While I suppose he could change his mind, he was present with #38 at his introductory press conference.